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		<title>By: Acid Staining</title>
		<link>http://jedsundwall.com/how-changegov-fosters-meaningful-conversations/comment-page-1/#comment-1674</link>
		<dc:creator>Acid Staining</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 13:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The video is well-produced, but not overly polished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The video is well-produced, but not overly polished.</p>
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		<title>By: Jed</title>
		<link>http://jedsundwall.com/how-changegov-fosters-meaningful-conversations/comment-page-1/#comment-1095</link>
		<dc:creator>Jed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments, guys. 

Jeffrey: I&#039;m beginning to believe that development of a template for gov&#039;t friendly terms of service should be a top priority of the new dept of commerce (it&#039;s my understanding the commerce lawyers are currently working on this issue). Someone tell Bill Richardson.

Alex, believe it or not, I (unfortunately) share your cynicism. I imagine the opening of comments is motivated to a large extent by a desire for good PR—to make it look like they&#039;re listening. 

That said, I don&#039;t think it will be long before remarkable anecdotes from blog comments are mentioned in policy debates. As Pete Ashdown said &quot;Facts and real evidence rise to the top and preserve themselves.&quot; Technologies like IntenseDebate can help reveal these facts and &quot;real&quot; evidence. 

Having small armies of people voting up good comments is a better way for constituents to make their voices heard than organizing costly and inefficient campaigns to flood representatives&#039; offices with letters and emails. It saves a lot of work for staffers, and it&#039;s a great way to motivate people to get involved and think deeply about policy issues.

And, I elect my representatives to be able to tell bad policy ideas from good ones, even if they come from blog comments. I don&#039;t expect anyone to copy and paste comments into a bill, but I think comments can certainly inform policies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments, guys. </p>
<p>Jeffrey: I&#8217;m beginning to believe that development of a template for gov&#8217;t friendly terms of service should be a top priority of the new dept of commerce (it&#8217;s my understanding the commerce lawyers are currently working on this issue). Someone tell Bill Richardson.</p>
<p>Alex, believe it or not, I (unfortunately) share your cynicism. I imagine the opening of comments is motivated to a large extent by a desire for good PR—to make it look like they&#8217;re listening. </p>
<p>That said, I don&#8217;t think it will be long before remarkable anecdotes from blog comments are mentioned in policy debates. As Pete Ashdown said &#8220;Facts and real evidence rise to the top and preserve themselves.&#8221; Technologies like IntenseDebate can help reveal these facts and &#8220;real&#8221; evidence. </p>
<p>Having small armies of people voting up good comments is a better way for constituents to make their voices heard than organizing costly and inefficient campaigns to flood representatives&#8217; offices with letters and emails. It saves a lot of work for staffers, and it&#8217;s a great way to motivate people to get involved and think deeply about policy issues.</p>
<p>And, I elect my representatives to be able to tell bad policy ideas from good ones, even if they come from blog comments. I don&#8217;t expect anyone to copy and paste comments into a bill, but I think comments can certainly inform policies.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Hunsucker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Hunsucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the inclusion of IntenseDebate. There is (typically) nothing worse than reading blog comments with anonymous posters except for a good laugh, and it certainly helps float to the top the most relevant comments. Every major website with a blog should have something similar.

However, I&#039;m still extremely skeptical any of this is really going to lead to citizen developed policy because in the end this is still about politics. The idea that the administration would incorporate an unpopular policy decision to centric America b/c a few thousand commenters asked for it would probably be naive on our part, and a good thing that they don&#039;t. But then, I&#039;m cynical like that. As Josh said though, it does give nice warm and fuzzies compared to what we would have gotten from McCain or Hillary. Either way, a giant step in the right direction.

I&#039;m hoping when they&#039;re actually in office we&#039;ll get to see some really interesting things - citizens determining what the weekly address will be about through the internet, etc. There&#039;s a hell of a lot of opportunity there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the inclusion of IntenseDebate. There is (typically) nothing worse than reading blog comments with anonymous posters except for a good laugh, and it certainly helps float to the top the most relevant comments. Every major website with a blog should have something similar.</p>
<p>However, I&#8217;m still extremely skeptical any of this is really going to lead to citizen developed policy because in the end this is still about politics. The idea that the administration would incorporate an unpopular policy decision to centric America b/c a few thousand commenters asked for it would probably be naive on our part, and a good thing that they don&#8217;t. But then, I&#8217;m cynical like that. As Josh said though, it does give nice warm and fuzzies compared to what we would have gotten from McCain or Hillary. Either way, a giant step in the right direction.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping when they&#8217;re actually in office we&#8217;ll get to see some really interesting things &#8211; citizens determining what the weekly address will be about through the internet, etc. There&#8217;s a hell of a lot of opportunity there.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Levy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic post! I was just selling social media to several communicators today and this is the kind of thing they need to read.

That voting system sounds terrific! For policy purposes, but also for contests. Are there sites that would allow people to upload a photo or video and allow others to vote up or down?

But, and I have to say this, IntenseDebate has the usual indemnification and jurisdiction issues in their terms of service, like YouTube. I&#039;m really looking forward to seeing what the transition does when they&#039;re actually in government. Here&#039;s hoping they meet with these companies to work out a generic TOS for gov&#039;t that wipes it all away and frees us up to use these tools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic post! I was just selling social media to several communicators today and this is the kind of thing they need to read.</p>
<p>That voting system sounds terrific! For policy purposes, but also for contests. Are there sites that would allow people to upload a photo or video and allow others to vote up or down?</p>
<p>But, and I have to say this, IntenseDebate has the usual indemnification and jurisdiction issues in their terms of service, like YouTube. I&#8217;m really looking forward to seeing what the transition does when they&#8217;re actually in government. Here&#8217;s hoping they meet with these companies to work out a generic TOS for gov&#8217;t that wipes it all away and frees us up to use these tools.</p>
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		<title>By: Jed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it&#039;s certainly an open discussion, but there&#039;s certainly no guarantee that any of these comments are actually going to inform policy. I&#039;m presuming that your definition of open would require access to a finer debate of actual policy—something like http://www.publicmarkup.org/. Am I reading you right?

And yes, in any case, this is extremely progressive, and I don&#039;t think we&#039;d have seen anything like this from anyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s certainly an open discussion, but there&#8217;s certainly no guarantee that any of these comments are actually going to inform policy. I&#8217;m presuming that your definition of open would require access to a finer debate of actual policy—something like <a href="http://www.publicmarkup.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.publicmarkup.org/</a>. Am I reading you right?</p>
<p>And yes, in any case, this is extremely progressive, and I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;d have seen anything like this from anyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Levy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, this is great stuff, though is it really &quot;open&quot; or just giving the friendly impression of being open? 

In any case, I keep trying to image what Hillary or McCain&#039;s transition would have been like -- would there have been anything remotely like this? Not likely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, this is great stuff, though is it really &#8220;open&#8221; or just giving the friendly impression of being open? </p>
<p>In any case, I keep trying to image what Hillary or McCain&#8217;s transition would have been like &#8212; would there have been anything remotely like this? Not likely.</p>
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		<title>By: Jed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, they might! 

They certainly have the right spirit. The more I think about it, the more excited I get about how IntenseDebate (or any other tool that enables emergence) is going to enhance our representative democracy. The current system of bombarding representatives with letters and emails is extremely costly and largely ineffective.

This is a great way to use technology to float powerful anecdotes and ideas from constituents up into policy debates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, they might! </p>
<p>They certainly have the right spirit. The more I think about it, the more excited I get about how IntenseDebate (or any other tool that enables emergence) is going to enhance our representative democracy. The current system of bombarding representatives with letters and emails is extremely costly and largely ineffective.</p>
<p>This is a great way to use technology to float powerful anecdotes and ideas from constituents up into policy debates.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Messina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Messina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is indeed exciting stuff -- and I&#039;m amazed that they seem to be getting that conversational tone right -- like holy crap! -- these guys might really care!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is indeed exciting stuff &#8212; and I&#8217;m amazed that they seem to be getting that conversational tone right &#8212; like holy crap! &#8212; these guys might really care!</p>
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